CentrePointe

A sneak preview of "New" CentrePointe

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June 2, 2011
By Joe Sonka

We don’t have the pics yet (at 4:00 tomorrow we’ll tweet them out), but Tom Eblen got a description of Jeanne Gang’s first draft and tells us what it consists of:

Gang said in a telephone interview Wednesday that her design is rough and flexible at this point because she wants input from more people who live in Lexington. She also wants help from Kentucky architects to give the block variety and local flavor.

I found Gang’s concepts for the development encouraging. She wants it to be pedestrian-friendly, compatible with its surroundings, unique to Lexington and “a place that is interesting to be.”

Gang envisions a cluster of buildings along Main Street — like there used to be — rather than a single edifice. The buildings would include a variety of locally designed, contemporary architecture that complements in scale and design the 19th and 20th century buildings across the street. “It will give it that authenticity and feel without it being forced,” she said.

The new CentrePointe — it really needs a new name, by the way — would have two towers instead of one. The shorter tower would house offices and the taller one would have a hotel and condos. The size of the towers would depend on the tenants Webb secures, but Gang said she would use computer models to show where the shadows would fall to help place the towers so they don’t hulk over Main Street or neighboring buildings.

Well how about that. Isn’t it funny how some local activists in 2008 were calling for about 1/4 of the historic block to be saved, while the Webbs could do whatever they wanted in the other 3/4′s?

But oh well. The past is the past. Be sure to get a glimpse of the future (maybe) at 4:00 tomorrow at the old courthouse in downtown Lexington, the home of CentrePointe, or whatever the hell else comes there next.

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Public CentrePointe meeting next week

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May 26, 2011
By Joe Sonka

Is Dudley Webb’s Invisible Unicorn Tower truly dead, or is there still a chance that something worthwhile can rise out of Lexington’s private gated lawn community in the heart of our city?

As you know, Mayor Gray recently convinced Dudley Webb to take a look at the top notch firm of Studio/Gang out of Chicago, in hopes that something resembling progress will come out of it.

Well, we just got word that on June 2nd at the Old Courthouse there will be a public meeting where the Webb Companies will host Jeanne Gang of Studio Gang to share her thoughts on the site and what they have in mind, as well as listen to what the public has to say and suggest. You know, basically what the Webbs never did in 2008.

Have the Webbs learned? Is it possible that with a new design they’ll be able to get funding from real live people? I don’t know, but you should definitely check it out, from 4-6pm next week.

Be sure to ask if they are committed to making Lexington the Pedway Capitol of the World. Or if they want to do something, you know, great.

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Mayor of Kentucky City works with Developers to Save Historic Downtown Buildings from Demolition

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May 12, 2011
By David M. F. Schankula

Somebody elect Jim Newberry the Mayor of Louisville and knock down that block.

This story is just crazy!

After months of debate, recriminations and even a court fight, a string of historic buildings on West Main Street known as Whiskey Row has been saved from the wrecking ball — fittingly, perhaps, by people with ties to Louisville’s bourbon industry.

An investment group that is headed by developers Steve Wilson and Laura Lee Brown and includes the Brown Forman Corp., has agreed to pay $4.85 million to acquire preserve five of the seven buildings that had been slated for demolition in the 100 block of West Main.

Laura Lee Brown is a member of the Brown family that controls the distillery company.

The deal also allows developer Todd Blue, whose company currently owns the buildings, to demolish the two easternmost buildings, though the Main Street facades of those two structures also will be preserved.

“These architectural treasures, once the center of Louisville’s historic bourbon industry, are now saved for future generations,” Mayor Greg Fischer said at a news conference Monday on Main Street across from the buildings. “This is a very good day for our city — and a very good day for Louisville’s historic fabric.”

Nothing of consequence!

But seriously… awesome deal and lovely move by the Brown family.

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Mayor of Kentucky City works with Developers to Save Historic Downtown Buildings from Demolition

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May 12, 2011
By David M. F. Schankula

Somebody elect Jim Newberry the Mayor of Louisville and knock down that block.

This story is just crazy!

After months of debate, recriminations and even a court fight, a string of historic buildings on West Main Street known as Whiskey Row has been saved from the wrecking ball — fittingly, perhaps, by people with ties to Louisville’s bourbon industry.

An investment group that is headed by developers Steve Wilson and Laura Lee Brown and includes the Brown Forman Corp., has agreed to pay $4.85 million to acquire preserve five of the seven buildings that had been slated for demolition in the 100 block of West Main.

Laura Lee Brown is a member of the Brown family that controls the distillery company.

The deal also allows developer Todd Blue, whose company currently owns the buildings, to demolish the two easternmost buildings, though the Main Street facades of those two structures also will be preserved.

“These architectural treasures, once the center of Louisville’s historic bourbon industry, are now saved for future generations,” Mayor Greg Fischer said at a news conference Monday on Main Street across from the buildings. “This is a very good day for our city — and a very good day for Louisville’s historic fabric.”

Nothing of consequence!

But seriously… awesome deal and lovely move by the Brown family.

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Ed Lane v. Harold Tate: Smackdown!

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April 26, 2011
By David M. F. Schankula

Harold Tate’s goodbye/legacy tour continues with “The Lane Report” — Ed Lane’s flagship publication, which always gives the local business community an unflinching and critical look. It’s not like it’s just reprinted press releases… this stuff’s “news.”

So here goes: Ed Lane v. Harold Tate… who will win? Let’s check the highlights…

Ed Lane: How long have you lived in Lexington?            

Harold Tate:
 I attended the University of Kentucky College of Architecture and graduated in 1974…. I took [a job at the Parks Department] my last year at UK while I was doing my thesis on historic preservation. 

First round goes to Lane. (And unfortunately, UK’s thesis archive appears to be down at the moment but maybe we can dig into that later.)

EL: What was your first promotion?

HT:
 ….When I left the urban county government in 2001, I had just completed doing the two new courthouses, the jail on Old Frankfort Pike, and the downtown arts center. 

You had us at the construction of the beautiful new Courthouses, Harold. Round goes to Tate!

EL: When did you start working at the Lexington Downtown Development Authority (LDDA)?

HT:
 ….The board hired me in May 2001. 

Sometimes when you get two heavyweights in the ring, they battle to the draw. Lane’s a shrewd journalist, but Tate holds his own here.

EL: What was the status of downtown Lexington when LDDA commenced operations in 2001?

HT: 
The last big project – The Woodlands condos – was completed in 1987. The Woodlands development was ahead of market demand; condominiums were not a concept that took off in Lexington. The slow absorption of these units was a drag on downtown development. That’s totally changed now.  

And then Tate comes out of his corner right into a buzzsaw! Lane creams him here, as Harold insults another of the Webb Companies failed development projects, lamenting how it destroyed development progress for years. It’s also worth noting that since the Webbs couldn’t fill The Woodlands with outside customers, they instead filled it with friends and family… including Woodford and his old neighbor Jim Newberry. Anyway, Lane takes the round easily.

The next three are mildly interesting but each were fought to a draw, so let’s skip ahead to the lightning round!

EL: You’ve worked for several mayors. Rank them 1-10 with 10 the highest rating.

EL: Foster Pettit

HT: 
I’d have to give Foster a 9, because he was the first mayor of merged government. He really had many major issues with which to deal. 

EL: Jim Amato 

HT:
 I’d have to give him a 9 as well because he really appreciated the hard work of the city’s employees.    

EL: Scott Baesler

HT:
 Let’s give Scotty a 10. He was in charge, he knew what he wanted to do and he did it.

EL: Pam Miller

HT: 
I’d give her a 9, because of her focus on downtown redevelopment.

EL: Teresa Isaac

HT:
 Let’s give her a 5.

EL: Jim Newberry

HT:
 Let’s give him a 9, because of his focus on revitalizing downtown and moving the Limestone corridor project forward. 

EL: Jim Gray

HT:
Not rated yet, it’s way too early since he has been in office less than 90 days. 

Round goes to Tate. Lane steered him into a minefield and he responded by giving everyone 9s and 10s except for TI who seems, somehow, to have deeply offended every aging white collared white male in downtown Lexington… it’s a powerful but small membered group and it’s Lane’s entire audience… so Lane goes down.

But seriously… Newberry was at least a 10. In fact, on that scale, he’s probably an 11.

Up next, Lane hits Tate with a CentrePointe question!

EL: What was the impact of the Webb Companies’ CenterPointe development (on the Main-Upper-Vine-Limestone block) on downtown Lexington?

HT:
 It was interesting to me that investors decided Lexington needed more entertainment venues in addition to Buster’s and The Dame – the businesses located in the buildings to be demolished (for CenterPointe). That’s when you really started seeing a lot of new places open in downtown. You had The Chase in Victorian Square, Sky Bar in Courthouse Square, Bakers 360 in the Chase Tower; so you started seeing more options. Larry Redmond had his place in the Court Square Building, then he opened up Bluegrass Tavern right beside it.

This is far and away Tate’s longest response throughout the entire steel-caged deathmatch… and for that reason alone, he goes down like an historic building filled with live music and good times.

In all his rambling, he takes credit for the New Busters and, as you see above, can’t fathom the market demands created when Lexington’s nocturnal population is displaced. Apparently multiple business people and developers see opportunities and all try to be the one (or maybe ones) to grab the customers. But hey, dude studied “historic preservation” not economics so let’s only judge him on his ability to preserve historic buildings.

And with Tate on the ropes, Lane strikes again!

EL: The Webb Company’s CentrePointe project has a $200 million price tag and that’s a significant capital investment. For comparison, the Louisville Arena cost about $235 million. The recent decline of U.S. financial markets has made financing difficult. What’s happening around the country and how hard is it to get loans for this kind of project?

HT:
 

Harold actually had an answer. It wasn’t a good one, but it didn’t much matter. After a question that stupid, there’s no way Ed Lane’s walking out of that one unscathed.

EL: A lot of people think that a TIF is an incentive where the city and the state give money to the developer to do a project. Could you explain how a TIF works?

HT:  
 

Again! It’s almost like Ed Lane has forgotten he’s doing journalistic battle with Harold Tate and is instead phantom-boxing an imaginary opponent from three years ago. Maybe he’s seeing The Ghost of the Mystery Investor!

After another couple rounds of equal footing, the two fighters return to form.

EL: Why did you recently decide to end your employment with the LDDA?

HT:
 I’m stepping down…. I’d like to work in the private sector; 38 years in the public eye is a long time. 

Round to Lane… ’cause Tate’s going to Newberry. Next!

EL: What was the LDDA’s best success?

HT:
 I’d have to say the Limestone Corridor. 

Lane, again. And the final round…

L: When you see all the changes that have occurred downtown over the last 10 years, what kind of feeling do you get?

HT: 
A great feeling. I can’t stop smiling when I see the sidewalks full of people….

Which explains why you never see Harold Tate smile. Zing!

But we jest. We really do. Sure, Ed Lane’s superior journalistic skills destroyed Harold Tate in this no-holds-barred exit interview… but Harold Tate’s a good guy who’s given years of hard work to build downtown Lexington into exactly what it is today, and for that, we must all give a hearty and sincere thank you.

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Some new details from new CentrePointe architect (but no pedway talk yet, alas)

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April 10, 2011
By David M. F. Schankula

Jeanne Gang, the recently-retained-at-Mayor Gray’s-suggestion architect hired by the Webbs to develop new (better) designs for the CentrePointe blocke got some coverage from Architects Newspaper (which I read daily, of course).

Gang, who will be developing several concepts over the next six weeks, revealed to A|N a little more about her teams plans going into this project:

Studio Gang will be presenting several scenarios to keep the mix of uses while better integrating the design into the community and attracting future buyers.

“There’s a definite urban design component,” explained Jeanne Gang. She said Lexington can sometimes feel like a commuter city. “We want to get people out of their cars.” Beyond making the city more pedestrian friendly, Gang expects to develop strategies to mediate the varying scales surrounding the full-block site. One side of the block offers two- and three-story historic structures while another features larger office towers.

Developers drew the ire of the community by razing the block, which once housed small-scale historic buildings. Now that the damage is done, however, the city and developers hope to move forward with a rejuvenated plan. “The site is literally a tabula rasa,” joked Gang. “It’s sitting there waiting for something good to happen.”

And also some warm and fuzzies about our downtown:

“The area has good bones,” said Gang. “There are some really nice historic buildings and two colleges nearby. There’s also a very active convention center and basketball arena.” She has also drawn inspiration from the horse farms and their prototypical wooden fences surrounding the city. For the time being, the CentrePointe site, now covered in bluegrass, is also surrounded by a similar split-rail wooden fence.

So adding the pedestrian-friendly feature and the scaling of the block from small historic on one side to large business on the other (and throw in a horse fence) to Gang’s previous statements about perhaps separating the block into “pieces” (and maybe having local architects design some of those pieces), and you can begin to envision a development that, even if a giant empty hotel/condo complex still sits at its center (or back right corner), already blends better with the surrounding area than the current hypothetical design.

All still a wait-and-see… but this talk sure beats the hell out of the previous plan to take a generic Atlanta skyscraper and pour it out the back of a gigantic cement mixer right into the heart of downtown Lexington.

But what, Ms. Gang, of our pedways?!

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And If You Remember CentrePointe was finished last fall…

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April 8, 2011
By David M. F. Schankula

As noted earlier, the Webbs have taken some advice from Mayor Gray and are consulting a new architect… which doesn’t mean CentrePointe’s getting built any time soon but at the very least maybe we’ll get a more effective design.

WKYT’s report on the matter doesn’t add much new but does have some precious announcer-quotes… like:

“And if you can remember that far back, the original design was to have been the tallest building in Lexington and much of it was to be open by the 2010 World Equestrian Games.”

Can you remember? If not, maybe some of the visuals in this video will bring it all back.

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CentrePointe To Be Built! (…eventually & differently)

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April 8, 2011
By David M. F. Schankula

In just three months, Jim Gray appears to have made more progress handling the CentrePointe vacant lot than Jim Newberry did in all of the last two years.

Before we get to the details, let’s just start by giving Dudley and Woodford Webb some serious congratulations and support. It’s wonderful to see them opening up, even if just a little at the moment, to the idea of community involvement and to the notion that their chosen designs for that block may not actually be the best (and only) way to develop the heart of the Bluegrass. That’s not sarcastic — it’s absolutely sincere. If I could see them right now, I’d give them a hug… and if you see either Woodford or Dudley around town, I’d encourage you to do the same.

Now… the details. Beverly Fortune at the Herald-Leader broke the story last night (and in this AM’s hard copy) that the Webbs had retained a Chicago architect at Mayor Jim Gray’s suggestion to at least consider rethinking the design for the giant city block that still currently is not CentrePointe.

The Chicago architect (to the great amusement of the Kentucky.com commenters) is a woman, Jeanne Gang, who’s designed the (ahem) Aqua Tower in Chicago and other big city projects as well as small town ones (a visitors center in Greenville, SC).

CentrePointe, of course, is the 40… no, 35… no 25 story skyscraper  building that dreamt of housing a hotel, a bunch of million dollar condos, some odd-sized ballrooms and maybe a Hard Rock Cafe or two on the ground floor. Folks objected not just to the size (which is much smaller than advertised) but also to the design (blocky, concrete) and its orientation (with it back to Main Street, it would have created a sort of 127 Hours sensation while standing behind it).

And here, friends, are the money quotes from Ms. Fortune’s conversation with the less fortunate Mr. Webb:

“We want her to give us her fresh thoughts and ideas to make whatever goes on that block the best it can be,” Webb said. He also asked Gang to critique the current CentrePointe design.

“We thought the CentrePointe design was the best it could be. But we’ve had 24 months to reflect on it, and to the extent there are better ways to do it, we certainly want to do it right,” Webb said.

Webb said he was “not wedded to the current design of CentrePointe. We are flexible.”

Webb does not have funding for the project, but he said two lenders have indicated interest in putting up money once a design has been settled upon.

The Webbs still want a mixed-use design for the block — the hotel, the condos, the possibly cavernous chain restaurant — but as Ms. Gang says, it’s their job to find tenants, her job to help create a more functional design.

As such, she says her design team will look to break up the block in some way “so it doesn’t feel like one big building.” To design these “pieces” Gang may talk to local architects to get their thoughts or designs on separate elements.

“The reason why a building feels comfortable and interesting is because there are different buildings lining the street, and not just one big massive thing that is all the same,” Gang said.

So you can see why it’s time to Hug-a-Webb

The mere fact they’re listening to some one speak those words, that they are open to consider building something no less grand but perhaps less monstrous is a good thing — it’s progress!

And sure, there’s no money for the thing save for a couple of mystery investors (are they the same ones? or different?) who may chip in toward a building (or buildings!) once there’s a reasonable design on the table.

But at the very least, there are new designs coming — maybe three of them — by the end of April or some time in May.

It’s funny how a Mayor… oh, you get it… Newberry… nothing of consequence… let’s put that aside for the moment.

Rock n’ Roll!

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Mayor Gray and Webbs talking CentrePointe changes, cooperation

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April 6, 2011
By David M. F. Schankula

CN|2′s Pure Politics sat down with Jim Gray, talking mostly about the economy and its restraints, but also touching on the Arena Arts and Entertainment District.

What seemed the most noteworthy (as in, new), were Gray’s comments on CentrePointe which indicate his administration and the Webbs have been continuing a dialogue and that, while nothing is certain, the size and scope of the project may be changing.

Which would be nice because for a couple years now, nothing of consequence has happened on that block.

Coming Soon!

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What is Jim Newberry up to?

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March 11, 2011
By Joe Sonka

I was working at Common Grounds in Lexington yesterday when I noticed some old friends setting up a meeting at the table next to me.

It was none other than former president of Lexington’s Downtown Development Authority (and big time CentrePointe/Newberry cheerleader) Harold Tate, current Chair of the Board for the Downtown Development Authority Mary Lee Kerr, and the recently trounced former Mayor of Lexington Jim Newberry.

I would have loved to accidentally overhear something, but alas, Newb and Tate saw me and decided to move upstairs for more seclusion. I guess it’s rough for them now, as they can’t use the big board room on the 12th floor of the LFUCG building anymore. The ratty second floor of the campus coffee shop will have to do, for now.

But what in the world was this meeting about? Whatever it was, I’m sure that their aims are for good. But gosh, one can only speculate.

(Hint: That Is Your Cue To Speculate or Send Me Tips)

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