Rand Paul softens but stands by his Thought Police

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June 3, 2011

As I’m sure you know by now, Rand Paul went on the radio last week to suck up to Sean Hannity, assuring him that he’s actually tough on national security despite his opposition to the Patriot Act. And how did he manage to suck up to Caveman Hannity? By saying that people who attend speeches by “radicals” advocating the violent overthrow of the government should be put in jail or deported. In its full context, there is absolutely zero doubt that is what he said and meant.

And it wasn’t just me and ThinkProgress and Krugman and Maddow and Cenk and Glenn Greenwald and Steve Benen saying that. Even the libertarian fanboys of Rand Paul at Reason Magazine agreed that this was really messed up:

Having listened to more of the interview…, I can’t say it makes the Kentucky senator, whose principled criticism of the PATRIOT Act I praised a in my column yesterday, look much better.


But Paul goes completely off the rails when he suggests that merely attending “radical political speeches” is “an offense that we should be going after,” one that justifies deporting or even imprisoning someone. (On what charge?) That does not sound like the same man who the day before insisted that we can “capture terrorists and protect our liberties at the same time” and who the day before that challenged conservatives and progressives by declaring that “if we do not protect the entire Bill of Rights, we are not going to have any of it.” It’s not surprising that Hannity did not press Paul for an explanation, but Paul had a chance to clarify his position and did not. You would think that a self-identified defender of civil liberties who goes on a nationally distributed radio show and hears himself suggesting that people should be imprisoned for attending speeches would be in a hurry to explain that is not what he really meant.

Another person at Reason wrote Paul to clarify what he meant, but he still hasn’t responded.

But what Rand did do yesterday is go on Mandy Connell’s show for some damage control, where Connell served up some huge softballs and slobbered all over him, like the no-talent hack that she is. In the “interview” Rand “clarifies” his views, of course blaming his “enemies” for taking him “out of context”. This is the first real 100% instance of “Rand’s Law” that we’ve seen in a while, as those who quote him full and in context are liars (yes, Newt has appropriated this Law).

But does Rand Paul fully back down from his views on Hannity’s show, especially his belief that Rand Paul himself should be a person of interest for federal authorities? Not so much. As you can see when he summarizes his views at the end of the interview:

Well heaven forbid that we should think about our political discourse some and have debate. But, no I don’t, I think if people hear enough of it, that’s one of the beauties I think of talk radio, is that you can have a more full discussion of things. The people on the internet who are talking that out of context, are obviously people who are my political enemies. So they are going to do anything to try to promote that.

But I think it’s a consistent position, and all I’m saying is that attending a rally where you call for the violent overthrow of the United States, one, it’s against the law to say that. But attending the rally I think would be supportive evidence to a judge to say, well maybe that person should be somebody, if he’s taking 25 calls from Pakistan, he’s been to Yemen twice, perhaps that’s enough evidence that a judge could grant a warrant to look further into his activities.

OK, looking past the hilarious praising of right-wing radio’s service of allowing people like Rand Paul to do unchallenged PR spin when they say something idiotic, let’s look at the basic argument which remains.

According to Rand, if you attend one of those radical speeches, Big Brother should be watching and listening to you, but only if you’ve been cavorting with Muslims, it appears. Now, does the fact that Rand Paul attended a speech where militiamen with assault rifles were calling for the violent overthrow of the government implicate himself and justify his spot on their Naughty List? Or does the fact that these militiamen were good white Christians mean that there is no harm here, and that Rand doesn’t have to be taken down to the station for questioning or have his phone tapped? Or is the fact that Rand Paul is a good white Christian allow him to go to radical violent speeches without impunity, while Muslim students do not have that right?

It’s still a little cloudy, as Rand’s Reason Fanboy Jacob Sullum agrees:

Paul has managed to construct a clarification that is alarming as well as reassuring. Instead of saying that he misspoke, he seems to defend the idea that people should be imprisoned for advocating violence. But in the 1969 case Brandenburg v. Ohio, the Supreme Court ruled that the First Amendment prohibits the government from criminalizing “advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.” That test is very hard to meet in practice, and an anti-American speech by a radical imam is unlikely to qualify unless his listeners immediately go out to plant bombs. In any case, people who merely listen to the speech have not committed any conceivable offense by doing so…. It is hard to tell exactly what he meant to say, since in both interviews he conflates several different scenarios, including airport screening, search warrants, deportation for violating student visa rules, and both listening to and giving radical, violence-promoting speeches. But at least he has made it clear that he does not favor punishing people for exercising their First Amendment rights. I think.

They truly are trying very hard to get him off the hook here, but… Rand’s making it kind of difficult.

Anyway, if this PR Bailout didn’t fully do the trick to quiet the storm, I’m sure Mandy Connell would invite him back to finish the job, true professional that she is.

CNN: Lexington a great place for Muslims to live and worship

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April 1, 2011

CNN published a story yesterday about Libyan immigrants in Lexington who hope that Gaddafi is ousted from power and that their loved ones are safe.

And they had some very nice things to say about how tolerant and respectful Lexingtonians are of them and their religion. You should really read the whole thing, but here are some excerpts:

“I love Lexington,” says 30-year resident Ibrahim Bakoush. “I would tell anyone to come to Lexington, it’s a great place. Come on over. I’ve been telling people to come here for 25 years … mainly because I was alone at first,” he says, smiling. “But seriously, I have always felt welcome here.”


The Lexington residents, meanwhile, have been extremely supportive, Nashnoush says.

“Even after 9/11, while there was a backlash across the country, in Lexington, people would come and ask us if we were OK, if we felt safe, if we needed a ride home from work,” Nashnoush adds. “Lexington is a warm and inviting community.”

Word about Lexington has spread. Nashnoush estimates there were a few dozen Muslim families here in the mid-1980s. Today, various estimates put the number of Muslims in Lexington at about 2,700.

Many in the community, including Nashnoush and Bakoush, say the University of Kentucky – along with a diverse and tolerant population accepting of different religious practices – attracts Muslims to the community.

There’s also talk in the story of a large Islamic center being built here. This is the point where the minority of bigots in Lexington TOTALLY FREAK OUT. SHARIA!!!!

Google brings Sharia Law to America for Veterans Day

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November 11, 2010

Apparently, building terrorist training camps on ground zero, Michigan, and two Kentucky towns is not enough for the Islamofascists.

Now, the liberal collaborators of evil at Google have chosen to desecrate Veterans Day with The Islam!

I know many of you don’t click over to but just take a look. At first glance, the flag is nice but look a bit closer and you’ll see the red crescent. I’m not buying that it is yet another optical illusion.


The traitors at Google probably think that we’re not smart enough to catch on to their devious Sharia plot, but we are. Expect the JournoList crowd to say that this is some sort “coincidence”.

It’s like they think we’re stupid or something?!

More here and here.

Sharia Law coming to Mayfield, Kentucky

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November 9, 2010

Well, not really, but the Mayfield Mosquebaggers aren’t going to like the fact that the mosque they shut down in August over *ahem* “parking” *ahem* now has the green light.

President Obama won’t stop until we’re all under the Iron Fist of Sharia. That is all we know for certain.

Skateboarding hippie saves the day

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September 13, 2010

Wait for the kicker at :55… “Dude, you have no Quran!

It’s the Anniversary of 9/11! Let’s do Brunch!

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September 7, 2010

The 9th anniversary of 9/11 is quickly approaching — it’s next Saturday, if you’re bad with dates — and if you still haven’t shored up your plans, here’s a fun way to celebrate

For just $15 you can join Congressman Ed Whitfield, the McCracken County Republican Party and Kentucky’s next United States Senator, Rand Paul, for brunch.

No word yet on whether the brunch-goers will be joining other brave patriots across the country who are planning to commemorate the day by burning Korans… because if you did not know, 9/11 is International Burn a Koran Day… which sounds like a fine enough idea on the surface, but to burn one, wouldn’t you first have to buy one? And if you buy a Koran, aren’t you just supporting the terrorists?

Anyway, you can RSVP to the McCracken brunch at the information above and if you want to burn a Koran you can “Like” their Facebook page.


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September 1, 2010

Well, failed businessman Dudley Webb isn’t ever going to build his Magic Unicorn Tower for Lexington, but some other folks have an idea for a substitute Tower of Magic:

Oh yeah, let’s make this happen.

Sam Seder talks to one of America’s new heroes

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August 31, 2010

This woman is one of the serious people of the new American movement that will restore honor to our country, and must be taken very seriously by the media. Enjoy (before Obama imposes his Sharia Law on you):

Republicans are insane, part 489

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August 31, 2010

According to a brand new Newsweek poll, only 40% of Republicans do not believe that “Barack Obama sympathizes with the goals of Islamic fundamentalists who want to impose Islamic law around the world”.


59% of Republicans believe that “Barack Obama favors the interests of Muslim Americans over other groups of Americans”.

By the time we get to the 2012 primaries, I’d say that you’ll have to have a Birther/Manchurian Candidate/No Sharia Law! platform in order to get any kind of GOP nomination. Korans will be burned at campaign rallies. They will smell like Liberty and the Baby Jeebus.

(h/t P1)

More from the Mayfield Mosquebaggers

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August 25, 2010

So let me ask you this? Do hundreds of people try to pack a zoning commission meeting in a small town at 9:00 in the morning because they are concerned about a tenant’s parking? Does a favorable ruling over parking make them break out in applause? Do people rock back and forth clutching their bible over parking? I believe you know the answer to that.

Here’s the video from WPSD on the meeting, which features at least one family in Mayfield who gave these Islamophobes a piece of their minds and a case of the vapors.

Update: More from Muslims in Mayfield:




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