McConnell continues to push Greece lie disproved last summer

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January 27, 2012
By David M. F. Schankula

In an example of why HD television was created, FOX News’ Greta Van Susteren interviewed Mitch McConnell the other day, an 8 minute visual orgy in which the two spoke casually while standing rather than sitting and Greta repeatedly emphasized the words “debt ceiling” with a gangsta-style hand gesture. If only they broadcast this in 3D.

In the interview, and driven home in FNC’s headline, Mitch McConnell again pushes this story that America is about to become the next Greece:

VAN SUSTEREN: You say we are beginning to look like Greece. If the status quo stays where in your mind in terms of where we’re headed, when would you anticipate would be Greece?

MCCONNELL: I don’t know how quickly we’d get there, but we’ll get there a lot quicker than any of us would like. And when you have a debt the size of your economy, when we already do, we begin to look a lot like Greece and western Europe.

You know, the best way to sum up what they’ve done in western Europe, Margaret Thatcher once said the trouble with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people’s money. That is exactly what has happened in Europe, and we are on the same path. This administration is leading us down the same path. Unless they are stopped by the people of this country in November, 2012, they will continue to take us down the western European path.

It’s probably for the best that Mitch doesn’t want to predict when, exactly, America will go Greek because then it would be easier for observers to paint him as some sort of false-prognosticator, like that guy who keeps predicting the rapture.

As it happens, Mitch doesn’t know when this certain inevitability will occur, but that won’t stop him from repeating it again and again even after it’s been disproved.

While making his argument against funding firefighters and police, Mitch McConnell predicted the Greecification of America in October 2011, via USA Today:

Speaking on CNN’s State of the Union, McConnell said the issue is the size of the federal government’s nearly $15 trillion debt, not teachers, police and firefighters.

“They are local and state employees,” McConnell said. “Look, we have a debt the size of our economy. That alone makes us look a lot like Greece. The question is whether the federal government can afford to be bailing out states. I think the answer is no.”

And here’s Mitch in July 2011, from The Hill:

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) said Wednesday that the financial state of the U.S. is similar to bankrupt Greece.

Making the case for major spending reductions a day before congressional leaders will meet with President Obama, McConnell said, “We look a lot like Greece already.”

And in March 2011, on FOX News Sunday:

WALLACE: Senator, what does that mean? That there has to be a deal on entitlements and taxes or you are going to vote against extending the debt limit?

MCCONNELL: What it means is this, we have a $14 trillion debt, $14 trillion. That’s the size of our economy, which begins to make us look a lot like Greece.

This pattern from a man who last June famously said, “Well, I think we’ve gotten to the point where we ought to put aside our talking points.”

Repeatedly predicting an impending doom which repeatedly does not happen is troubling enough. But when that prediction is itself predicated on an established falsehood, Mitch’s repetition becomes a series of lies.

Last summer, FactCheck.org politely explained that McConnell “exaggerates” and while the American economy, and its balance between debt and GDP, is indeed in bad shape, “it’s not close to the size of Greece’s debt, which was 142.8 percent of that nation’s GDP as of the end of last year, according to the most recent figures from Eurostat, the official statistical office of the European Union.”

FactCheck.org went on:

Furthermore, McConnell is making an apples-to-oranges comparison. The $14 trillion figure refers to “total debt oustanding,” much of which is money that the government owes to the Social Security trust funds and other governmental entities, not money actually borrowed from the public. The U.S. “debt held by the public” is currently less than $9.8 trillion. That’s the proper figure to compare to what Greece owes, and in relation to GDP it’s currently less than half the Greek level.

Others have been less guarded with their examination of Mitch’s claim.

Last July, after McConnell launched the talking point, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham picked it up… leading Steve Benen at the Washington Monthly to write:

Look, the very idea is just crazy. The U.S. has extremely low interest rates and foreign investor are happy to loan us money; Greece has extremely high interest rates and no one is eager to loan the country money. The U.S. has our own currency; Greece has the Euro. We have a great credit rating (for now); Greece has an awful credit rating. We have a manageable debt; Greece has a debt crisis. We’re a large country with an enormous economy; Greece is a small country with a small economy. We have one of the world’s most stable systems of government (at least until six months ago); Greece’s government structure is a little shaky.

For an elected American senator — and media darling — to tell a national television audience that the United States is “becoming Greece” is a clear signal: Lindsey Graham is not to be taken seriously on these issues.

If Graham sincerely believes his own rhetoric, he has no idea what he’s talking about. If Graham is just playing some kind of cynical game, he’s a hack.

Paul Krugman graphed part of the stark difference between the two countries, and also pointed out that while the rate on US bonds sat at around 3%, Greek bonds were at 16.82%.

Behind Mitch’s erroneous comparison lies Mitch’s agenda. He does not truly believe America is in any way like Greece, he is simply trying to capitalize on the Greek misery in order to scare Americans into believing that the real problem in this country is out of control government spending — Medicare must be demolished and with it Social Security. This has been the Republican Party’s goal since the two social programs were created.

And in that, Greece offers the starkest example of an idea of Europe as a collection of countries that spent their way into economic collapse — Mitch’s argument is that social well-being bankrupts countries and all government programs meant to help people live better lives are fiscally irresponsible.

Here, too, Mitch McConnell is incorrect and here, too, he knows it all too well.

As ThinkProgress pointed out in December:

These charts show that, according to deficits and debt, countries like Spain and Ireland were acting much more responsibly than Germany and France — therefore it can’t have been deficits and debt that caused their problems. As The American Prospect’s Harold Myerson put it, “some of Europe’s current basket cases were actually running budget surpluses in the years before the Lehman meltdown. Ireland and Spain weren’t overspending at all — but the banks and investors speculating on their housing markets most certainly were.” What Europe needed was better regulation of its financial sector and a central bank willing to take the steps necessary to lessen the pain of the Great Recession, neither of which it had.

There is no doubt America faces serious economic challenges, and it’s not ridiculous at all to consider that our economy may well collapse further. But using these realities to dismantle programs that didn’t cause the problem is cynical-verging-on-evil.

Scaring people into believing that this is what happened, that America is like Greece, when clearly it is not, and that the only way to prevent collapse is to remove the President from office and dismantle Medicare… that’s just Mitch McConnell. It’s not true and it’s dangerous.

 

And while we’re on the subject of GDP… the nation’s economy grew for the tenth straight quarter:

There is still much to worry about, but that picture is going in the right direction and the last thing Mitch McConnell wants anyone to do is notice it, let alone the date at which it started to change.

It’s almost like Mitch McConnell wants America to fail.

Why do you hate America, Mitch? Why do you hate your country?

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Senate Committee Passes Mandatory Ultrasound Bill; How will Dorsey Ridley vote?

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January 27, 2012
By David M. F. Schankula

The Fetal Seance Bill is back as a Senate Committe passed two bills — SB102 mandating “face-to-face counseling” for women 24 hours before an abortion because women are so freaking stupid they aren’t qualified to make their own decisions, and SB103 which would force doctors (at risk of $250,000 fine) to show women considering an abortion an ultrasound of their fetus… and if those stupid women try to look away, the doctor has to keep shoving it in front of their faces.

The first one passed 8-3 and the second passed 7-3.

Voting against? Sens. Tim Shaughnessy and Perry Clark of Louisville… and Kathy Stein of Northeastern Kentucky.

Sen. Kathy Stein, a Lexington Democrat who has consistently opposed such measures, said the bills are a means to substitute the judgment of lawmakers for women who may be poor or subject to domestic violence and facing the difficult decision to seek an abortion.

“We need to trust adult women to make decisions for themselves,” Stein said.

Lexington’s new Senator, Dorsey Ridley, has previously voted in favor of similar woman-hating bills — SB179, SB40, SB79.

So long as Ridley occupies Kathy Stein’s seat, he’d better vote exactly as Kathy would vote. This may be our first glimpse of our new Senator’s intentions. He told Lexingtonians at the rally for Kathy Stein last Saturday that he’d represent us… and representing Lexington means standing up for the equal rights and dignity of women.

What’ll it be, Dorsey?

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Andy Barr, Curtis Kenimer to face off in GOP 6th District Primary

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January 27, 2012
By David M. F. Schankula

Andy Barr will make his rematch with Ben Chandler official today when he files to run a second time for the 6th District seat. Garland Barr reports having $425,000 on hand.

The lead plank in Andy’s campaign so far is his support for dismantling Medicare.

Before Garlandy can get to Ben, he’ll have to first get through the Republican primary. Curtis Kenimer of Paris, KY filed his papers on Thursday.

Kenimer’s business, Marsetta LLC, gave money to the UK College of Agriculture, and he appears to be involved in horse breeding (here, here, here, here ). His campaign contributions appear limited to just $750 — coming in three installments of $250 each in 1996 and 2000 to the Republican National Committee, listing his profession as “farmer.” Kenimer, class of 1972, also gave money to the Farmhouse Fraternity on the UK campus in their mission to bring their digs into the 21st Century (which is a good cause given the worn out look of the current frat house). Kenimer’s wife, Kathy, is a director of the Scott County Habitat for Humanity.

At the same time, the State House and State Senate continue to bicker over Congressional redistricting, increasing the liklihood that the filing deadline will be pushed back:

The Bluegrass State’s redistricting process hit a discordant note this week. The Democrat-held state House and the Republican-held state Senate are stuck at an impasse over how to redraw Congressional maps.

With Kentucky facing a Jan. 31 filing deadline, a growing consensus in Frankfort is that the filing period will have to be moved later in the year as result of the Legislature’s inability to compromise on a bill. If the deadlock remains in place over the next weeks, the potential for judicial involvement grows.

So… if you haven’t gotten your stuff together to run against Ben in the primary, your friends in Frankfort might buy you an extra few days (or weeks).

 

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Lexington City Council votes 11-3 to shake finger at Frankfort

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January 27, 2012
By David M. F. Schankula

Council-at-Large member Steve Kay proposed a resolution expressing concern about the redistricting plan and the resolution passed, 11 to 3.

Ed Lane, K.C. Crosbie and Bill Farmer all voted against chastising Frankfort for disenfranchising the voters of Fayette County.

Councilman Jay McChord said he was “sick and tired of Lexington looking weak, acting weak” at the state level. “If they don’t like it up there, so be it. Maybe it is time to send somebody else up there,” he said.

Councilman Chris Ford said when an action by Frankfort legislators “harms the citizens of Fayette County, we should stand up and speak.”

“This is classic gerrymandering,” said council member Julian Beard. “I don’t think we should duck our head and go quietly into the night.”

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And then there were lawsuits…

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January 27, 2012
By David M. F. Schankula

Greg Stotelmyer delivers possibly the clearest and best explanation of the current state of play in the redistricting battle as House Republicans and Senate Democrats get set to join forces against their opposite leadership:

[For more, see our fuller round-up from last night]

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C-J:

Democrats divided 28 counties with the new boundaries, and Republicans say their plan would have split only 24. The constitution requires lawmakers to carve up as few counties as possible when redrawing the boundaries every 10 years after the newest census.

“The plan that was passed, signed by the governor, split more counties than was necessary, and we think we will be able to show that to the court,” Hoover said.

H-L:

Sen. Kathy Stein, a Democrat whose Lexington district was moved to northeastern Kentucky, said it’s “highly likely” that she and some Fayette County residents will join the lawsuit.

“I’ve had several constituents — Democrats and Republicans alike — say they would be willing to be a plaintiff in a lawsuit. This may certainly well be a vehicle to get it in front of the court as expediently and efficiently as possible,” she said.

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Kentucky spends $311 Million a year to imprison population

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January 27, 2012
By David M. F. Schankula

Kentucky has a daily prison population of 21,347.

The average annual cost to the state per inmate is $14,603.

The total cost of the state’s prison system per year is $311.7 Million.

See the PDF here, and find more info at the VERA Institute of Justice.

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